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Show: rachel maddow SHOWDate: Guest on May 14, 2018: Robert Costa, Eric swerwell, Evan Osnos William BarberJOY red, broadcast host: I am also "minus ".
Thank you anyway.
Man, can't wait to hear the podcast.
Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
Chris Hayes, MSNBC host: Okay. Rhett: Thank you.
Thank you for watching us at home for the next hour.
Rachel took another night off. Just one more.
But she will be back tomorrow. We promise.
Now, of course, there's a lot to do tonight.
After a day of violence and bloodshed, we are certainly following developments along the border between Israel and the Gaza Strip.
The Israeli army opened fire on thousands of protesters who said they tried to break through the border fence, killing more than 50 Palestinians and injuring more than 2,500 others.
It was the bloodiest day since the border protests began a month ago.
Today's violence comes at the same time as the inauguration of the new president of the United States. S.
US embassy in JerusalemS.
Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump and some very controversial Christian priests represented him.
We'll have more on the show later, including NBC's Richard Engel live report in Jerusalem.
Also, today, Melania Trump has accepted what the White House calls a medical procedure for benign kidney disease.
We were told that the procedure was successful, and the president said on Twitter this afternoon that the first lady was in good spirits.
This week, we have been following the criminal trial of Missouri Republican governor Eric Grayson.
Greitens, accused of felony crimes and privacy violations, allegedly took a compromise photo of a woman who had an affair with him on 2015.
The local prosecutor suddenly announced today that her office will drop the charges of privacy violations against the governor.
They asked the judge to appoint a special prosecutor and to start the case again.
Governor Greitens still faces charges of computer tampering with felony related to campaign fundsraising.
He may be impeached by his Republican party at a special meeting starting on Friday.
We will also pay attention.
But let's start with the footnote tonight.
Footnote in a legal document filed today in the Federal Court of WashingtonC. OK. Are you ready?
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Reid: In a true legal document today, this is a footnote of honesty and kindness.
A serious legal document.
Look, it's here.
It's nice to see lawyers have a good sense of humor at times.
But the important reason, the reason we started today from this, you can start here to see a faith article on the investigation of Mueller by the right-wing and current presidential hardcore defenders, the investigation entered a court debate on the investigation.
Okay, I mean
On February, the special adviser sued 13 Russians and three Russian businesses, accusing them of conspiring to interfere in 2016 elections through information warfare activities.
None of the Russian indicted responded formally to the charges.
But one of the Company entities, a company owned by a Russian oligopolistic, a man known as the cook of Putin, hired some American lawyers who did respond to Mueller's prosecution.
They have applied for a large number of findings, which means that you have to show us your evidence if you are going to sue our client.
Specifically, they asked the United States to provide information on Russia's 70-year foreign policy and intelligence. Seriously. Seven decades.
Citing their request for discovery to the prosecutor, quoting: the government was required to hand over to defense counsel and to disclose every situation of any officer, employee from 1945, s. government and/or agents engaged in actions to intervene in any foreign election and political process, including, but not limited to, information relating to the use of any form of publicity in any such activity, including but not limited to the use of social media.
So, you prosecutors can put it together very quickly, right?
Today, a motion is filed on behalf of an American lawyer who has been sued against a Russian company, and basically we think that the allegations of special counsel are annoying, and we think that they are completely fabricated, just like a green fairy tale, convince people of the charges. Here`s a taste.
Quote: The deputy attorney general of the attorney general who represented the evaded attorney general refused the history and integrity of the Department of Justice, but authorized a special lawyer, he cannot be dismissed for all practical political purposes to Sue has absolutely nothing to do with any link or coordination between any candidate and the Russian government.
The reasons are obvious and political in order to prove his own existence.
The special prosecutor must sue a Russian. Any Russian.
This is where they footnote "Casablanca", bringing together the usual suspects.
Lawyers said in their motion that their client, the Russian company run by chef Putin, was accused of conspiring to interfere in the US election.
There are many things in this document today.
It's a way to get the kitchen sink, throw everything on the indictment and see what's great.
It believes that the crimes alleged by these Russians do not actually exist.
It argues that even if they do, they do not know that it is illegal.
It sees the indictment as hypocritical because the US government has also intervened in many elections.
But the central content of this document is that Robert Mueller did not act in the legal field, he acted in the political field, he was committing a crime, in order to prove his existence, he's hunting down random Russians, and the special lawyer is not undoing the plot. he's a conspiracy.
This theory has always had its followers in some conservative circles.
The words "witch hunt" and "prank" may sound familiar, but it is indeed a theory of all ages.
Natasha Bertrand, of the Atlantic, today reported on a book scheduled for publication next month, called "Russian feign"
Two colleagues at Joseph Mifsud, a professor in Malta, wrote that he told Trump's campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos ),
The author claims that papasopoulos has admitted to lying to federal agents about his conversation with Mifsud, and that he is really waiting for a Western intelligence officer scheduled by the FBI for the Trump campaign. See?
Bertrand wrote that their mainstream view is that papadopoulos's mission is to engage Trump with Russian officials.
Of course, this is well combined with the excitement that is barely included on the right.
Congressman Devin Nunez's campaign to get the Justice Department to hand over law enforcement sensitive material under investigation is about to reveal the presence of FBI spies in Trump's campaign.
So all of this constitutes one of the two Russian investigations that Greg sagin of The Washington Post said today.
First of all, he wrote that there is the Miller probe, which is the real Miller probe that exists in Fox News-I mean, Fox News (Fox News) the Miller survey that exists in has confused President Trump and his supporters, which is characterized by a dark plot to spread a deep national coup against Trump, out of control federal agents and hapless Trump allies, of course, there is also corruption that Hillary Clinton has not been prosecuted.
But there is also a second Mueller detector, a detector in real life, presented in various ways, citing a group of investigators who are reading books most of the time and never leaking, track the facts in an orderly manner, albeit very positive, wherever they lead.
So, the actual special adviser investigation has entered the second year, and we now have a significant understanding of what this investigation is actually provided by a group of amazing reporters from The Washington Post.
The title is "buckle ".
Here are some fascinating details from this article.
Quote: witnesses from the grand jury came one by one to the windowless room of the Federal Court on constitutional Avenue, downtown Washington.
First of all, they were impressed by how ordinary the environment was, and more than the court was the classroom.
Special prosecutor Robert Miller's special prosecutor stood on the podium.
Jurors are of different ages and races. they are careful and take notes.
Questions are polite, but aggressive, with surprisingly accurate witnesses and often accompanied by evidence including text messages and emails
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The three witnesses described their experience of being summoned to attend the brand jury, saying that Miller did not attend their preliminary interview, and instead, one of his prosecutors stood at the podium and asked them questions, and present the case to the scrawled jury members.
A witness said the narrow room, furnished with unelegant furniture, looked like a court in a college in its 1970 s, underfunded college.
In addition to some witnesses who shared their experiences with the Miller team, the exact outline of the investigation remains opaque, even with Trump's lawyer, who has been in regular contact with Mueller's investigators.
For example, it was not until last week that the public learned that Miller had been investigating payments made by Fortune 500 companies to Trump lawyer Michael Cohen at least since last fall.
Now it's worth just a second at this point.
I mean, if Miller looked into the payments made to Michael Cohen last fall, and we only discovered those payments last week, we will find out in the next six months what is he investigating now?
We are also reminded today that simply because the special prosecutor referred the investigation of Michael Cohen to the prosecutor in New York does not necessarily mean that the special prosecutor has not continued to investigate Michael Cohen.
Remember the strange story of a summoned Ukrainian peace plan handed over to Michael Cohen shortly after Trump took office?
In addition to the fact that this is only a plan to permanently hand over Crimea to Russia, it then raises the status of the United States. S.
Sanctions against Russia?
Michael Cohen told the New York Times that he had handed the plan to Mike Flynn's office, then national security adviser, but he told The Washington Post that he had absolutely not done so.
He threw it away.
"Politico" reported tonight that the Ukrainian MP who worked with Michael Cohen on the plan, in Miller's investigation, was asked to testify before the grand jury and that he would testify this Friday.
So, there is a lot of work going on in this survey, we are still learning, learning new things every day, which is impressive for someone who is said to be just rounding up ordinary suspects.
Now joining us is Robert Costa, the national political correspondent for The Washington Post, and one of the authors of The Post's blockbuster today.
Nice to have you here, Robert.
Robert Costa, national political correspondent for The Washington Post: It's a pleasure to be with you. Reid: Great.
So this insight we have on Mueller's investigation is very rare, because of course the Mueller team will not leak.
They're notoriously nervous. lipped.
But you have witnesses coming in now to talk about the investigation.
Have you ever felt from the people who have spoken to you about this article that you have reported that they think that Miller's investigation is going up or down, or can they see it?
Costa: Joey, when you talk about how narrow the window is when these witnesses interact with Miller's investigation, you get it.
They only hear clips sometimes and they only get a little bit of information.
Some people compare it to a submarine, something that has been below the surface of the water all the time, and may sue from time to time.
However, they know that we have collected conversations with the president-the people around the president and the lawyers who are familiar with the case have two tracks.
It will be about the president's actions, a report on that, and they will have a side of Russian collusion.
Part of the investigation was the collusion of Russia, which really took a lot of time and has spread out.
Reid: When you talk to the Post's correspondent colleagues about Donald Trump's reaction to the investigation section, you really feel like a raid on Michael Cohen's office is a flash
In terms of how he feels about the case, but also emotionally, this is important to him.
Can you talk about this?
Costa: It's really a bright spot.
Working with my colleagues, we want to find out about the inside of the White House a year after Miller's investigation.
One of the important gains is that just a few months ago, the president almost agreed to a voluntary interview with Robert Miller and his investigators,, cohen's raid really kept him away from that, which led to a really controversial debate between him and lawyer John doode and others.
Morality later resigned.
Giuliani is the former mayor of New York.
Now, they are moving away from voluntary interviews, in many ways preparing for possible legal disputes over subpoenas issued by Robert Mueller.
You wrote that you and your colleagues wrote that many Trump aides and colleagues said they believed the president would be acquitted, but they expressed their concern in private, the investigation could take up more on Trump's track, including family members, and special concerns about the eldest son, Donald Trump.
And his son, Jared Kushner. in-
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Did the aides worry because there might be something going on in the Cohen raid, and if so, why don't they worry about himself now that Donald Trump is close to Cohen?
Costa: It's complicated when you deal with the president of the United States.
For Mueller, he may issue a report when Congress will decide whether to impeach or try it in the Senate.
But with regard to the president's family, the White House is in that narrow window and can only see part of the investigation.
They know some of the questions that White House officials have been asked, and the White House has cooperated with the interview.
They did hear about Donald Trump Jr.
Meeting with Russian lawyers
They sometimes hear questions about Jared Kushner and his meeting with foreign officials during the transition.
So for a White House that feels besieged, all of this is a problem.
Reid: I was struck by another sentence in your article, that is, the biggest challenge for the White House is that the special counsel is doing the proper investigation, which means that they are not leaking, meaning they're not the subject I want to say in a sense the way they treat the bigger Washington through leaks, bullying and other things like that.
This is amazing, the White House, and their biggest limitation is the suitability of the Mueller team.
Costa: this is always the issue that we need to pay attention to in our reports, because we are talking to people who are familiar with the witness experience, talking to people who are familiar with the witness experience is close to the experience of becoming a lawyer, dealing with Robert Miller, the person who interacted with him, spoke with Mayor Giuliani about his own article-to-
Face-to-face meeting with Robert Miller
But it is very difficult to crack Mueller's investigation itself.
Because the reporter was unable to tamper with or interact with the grand jury witness-sorry, member of the jury.
It's legal. it's reported.
This is a smart challenge, but we are trying to provide as much information as we can. REID: Yes.
I like the details of its underfunded class in its 70 s.
Very sparse, very interesting. Great details.
Robert Costa, national political correspondent for The Washington Post, thank you very much.
Thank you. Reed: Okay.
Now with me is Congressman Eric svalwell, who is a member of the House Intelligence Committee.
Member Swalwell, nice to meet you. REP. ERIC SWALWELL (D-CA)
House Intelligence Committee: Yes, thank you for inviting me. REID: OK.
We're talking about two of Mueller's detectors.
Donald Trump and his supporters believe that this is a real deep state conspiracy, not even true.
They are just rounding up the Russians and trying to put them in jail because they want to hurt Donald Trump.
And then the real Mueller detector.
How much risk did these two separate things collide in the mind of your committee chair, and what he is trying to do is unlock the first of Mueller's investigations?
SWALWELL: Yes, you know, the Russian letter you read earlier defending Russians, probably from Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.
Russian lawyers on behalf of the Russians are accusing things and there is not much time between Donald Trump and the middle man in Congress through President Nunes and others, delaying, you know, stop us from knowing what the Russians have done.
Fortunately, Bob Mueller's actions are as positive as the Russians.
You know, I think it's a lie that's holding him back.
It takes longer for lies to lead to investigations.
So when Vice President Pence says wrap it up, make it clear, because it takes longer when you lie. REID: Yes.
Two, they're still counting Russians, right?
From every rock, from every tree, there is a Russian.
Then three, the president has actually got the question-already got a copy of the question Miller wanted to ask, and he still won't be sitting in a chair.
If he was sitting in a chair, I think it would be a lot faster.
Reid: of course, one of the warnings is that, according to Robert Costa and other reports, this is described on the phone to his lawyer, of course, his lawyer presented the list of 49 questions that were immediately leaked to the newspaper, which is why Mueller's team did not speak.
But I want to know-I think when the American people see your committee, what happened to the intelligence committee, they are shocked by the divine level of what Devin Nunes might theoretically violate the source and method.
He is now trying to expose a memo that he was warned could expose sources and could harm state intelligence.
But he can do so with taxpayers' money.
Why was he allowed to do so?
Svalwell: No.
Paul Ryan is the only one who can get him to give up because he's a direct date with Paul Ryan.
So the day after Comey told us that the presidential campaign was under criminal and counter-intelligence investigation, he went to the White House to issue the memo.
He will destroy the intelligence community, which is very offensive to us.
As a former prosecutor, for me, it was offensive for him to hand over the evidence of investigation that existed in the case to the subject.
He's looking at the FBI memo.
Now, I mean, basically go to Rosenstein and ask for the keys to the FBI evidence locker and you don't give evidence against witnesses or potential targets of the investigation.
Otherwise, they will adjust according to their testimony or make up a case. REID: Yes.
SWALWELL: Now, this case can be compromised if they succeed.
Reid: I think the question is, if they're willing to go that far and share information with the White House, basically like a committee to protect the president, then what is the opportunity for the House to pass legislation, make sure the president of the United States can't simply fire Rod Rosenstein or Bob Miller?
Will that happen?
SWALWELL: You know, people need to be as loud as possible.
Because people care, we only see progress in this area.
In the Senate, you see bipartisan legislation on the judicial committee.
That's because people speak up.
They called the senator.
They showed up at the Town Hall.
They haven't paid the price yet in the house, so they think they are invincible.
So, they will only keep this guy in power because they get what they want from him, tax cuts, repeal the Affordable Health Care Act, very close to it.
So, until people, you know, really put pressure on me and I don't think they're going to speak out loud.
I don't think I can change their mind.
I will continue to work hard.
I think we have to change seats.
Reid: Yes, changing the election could be the only factor in protecting Robert Miller.
Thank you so much to Congressman Eric Swalwell.
Thank you for coming. Appreciate it.
My pleasure. Reed: Okay.
There's still a lot to do on this busy Monday night.
We just started. Stay with us. (
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Reid: Here are a few snapshots from the Middle East today.
On the left is the daughter of US President Ivanka Trump, who announced the grand opening of the new US embassy in Israel, moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, a city that three major religions consider sacred, it has been fighting for generations.
The photo on the right was taken at the same time today, dozens of miles away.
During the deadliest protests in the region in years, Palestinian protesters transported one of their cars to safe areas.
Israel declared independence 70 years ago today.
Tomorrow is what the Palestinians call a "day of disaster" and a day when they honor thousands of Palestinians who have been forced to leave or flee their homes in Israel.
Protests in Gaza have been going on for six weeks.
Until the anniversary of tomorrow.
The protesters launched a massive
What they call the "great journey of return" is a massive effort by the descendants of refugees to return to Israel.
The purpose of the march was for peace, but as almost any analyst could have expected, there was violence.
Today was the bloodiest day when protesters approached the fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel, Israeli defense forces fired tear gas and live ammunition at them.
The IDF claimed that they had responded to protesters who threw Molotov bombs, explosive devices and stones at the wall.
But the death toll is high.
According to the Health Ministry in Gaza, at least 56 Palestinians were killed, including at least 6 under the age of 18.
The Ministry of Health also said more than 2,700 people were injured today.
The Committee for the Protection of Journalists said at least seven Palestinian journalists were injured in Israeli fire.
Hospitals in Gaza are working to treat the wounded.
The International Committee of the Red Cross reported that the health system was on the verge of collapse, citing this sentence.
On the same day-one day after seeing the same fate in the Gaza Strip.
On this day, the Trump administration sent Jared, Ivanka and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin to Jerusalem to celebrate the opening of the new embassy.
Donald Trump has promised to change the position of the United States. S.
On December, the Palestinians were very angry at the embassy and campaign from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which they thought made it clear that the United StatesS.
I am not serious about developing a peace plan between Israel and the Palestinians, which will lead to two-state solution.
Today's ceremony is very important.
Billionaire conservative donor Sheldon Adelson and evangelical pastor from Dallas were also present, saying Jews would go to hell after the end of the world.
There is also a pastor from San Antonio who once claimed that Hitler was part of God's plan to send Jews back to Israel.
But the Trump administration has not completely ignored what is happening dozens of miles away.
Jared Kushner said that, as we have seen from last month's and even today's protests, those who caused violence are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Earlier today, Trump's senior adviser and apparent Middle East peace negotiator Jared Kushner again blamed Palestinian protesters, some of whom were killed, including children.
The comments were mysteriously not included in the official White House record of Kushner's remarks.
Later, the White House deputy press secretary called it a good day for Israel and the United States, and accused Hamas, the militant group running Gaza, of killing the 52 Palestinians.
This weekend, the White House is still touting it in Israel-
The Palestinian peace plan tells the Washington beacon of freedom that the government is finalizing a later phase of the agreement.
If there is any indication of what is happening today, the reality of this prospect does seem suspicious.
Richard Engel, NBC News's chief foreign correspondent, is joining us now from Jerusalem.
Richard, thank you for joining us this evening.
Nice to meet you.
Richard Engel, chief foreign correspondent for NBC News: of course.
It's nice to be here. Rhett: Thank you.
I know we're a little delayed.
So, I want to start with what the White House calls "good days" and they're kind of touting the embassy as an unambiguous good thing to move on.
They are less-they are very reluctant to answer questions from our NBC News staff, in their briefing with Raj Shah, they talked about whether they were uncomfortable with the level of violence used by Raj Shah by IDF against protesters today.
Do you know if you have any further reports and if this has been going on all day?
I talked to the United States. S.
At the end of the ceremony, the ambassador asked him in particular, how do you see what was said at the ceremony-there are a lot of topics about peace and how the embassy's move will open the door to peace, this initiative will restart a new dynamic, possibly between Israelis, Palestinians, other Arabs, the region, and the past peace process has failed in any event, so, this could be a disruptive move that will lead to a new generation, a new dialogue.
So, there is a lot of talk about peace in Jared Kushner's speech today, and I think his speech may be the longest one he has put forward, more or less a peace plan, A peaceful vision of harmony between Arabs and Israelis. I asked the U. S.
Ambassador, how do you see all the peace talks that we just heard at the ceremony, including the peace talks in the United StatesS.
Dozens of ambassadors shot and killed in Gaza?
He very much agrees with the same route given by the White House, which is Hamas's problem, Hamas takes the people of Gaza hostage, and Hamas forces them to carry out violent activities near the Israeli border, causing them to be shot dead.
You have to-most people don't necessarily know the geography here.
The Gaza Strip is relatively small, probably twice the size of Washington, D. C. C.
Nearly 2 million people live there.
It was completely cut off.
You have Egypt cut it off in the South.
You have the sea.
Then there is Israel on all the borders.
Many people in Gaza compare it to a prison.
They can't leave.
They need special permission from Israel or Egypt to leave, which is rarely received.
It is very difficult for them to do any business or business.
They also need special permission to do this, which is rarely available.
So if you think of it as a prison with Hamas as the warden, it's a hard place to live.
Even in Gaza, not many people like the way this place works.
So it's an incredibly desperate place, and according to many interviews, many people who are going to the border today, including hospital officials, say they feel they have nothing to lose, it would be better to die for a certain principle, because living according to their way of life is not a way of life at all.
Reid: Richard Engel, this is a very tragic situation, a very terrible situation to remind people that there are children, mothers and grandparents in schools in Gaza.
Thank you very much for bringing us some points about it.
Richard Engel, thank you very much.
Thanks for the time tonight. ENGEL: Sure.
Reid: we have more to do tonight, including what the term "Turkish Farm" has to do with the Trump administration.
We will be back soon. (
Business break)REID: Adtalem.
This is a bite.
Adtalem is allegedly authorized from Latin phrases.
At least this is based on the biggest one-
A profitable university chain in the country.
Global Education.
If the name does not sound the alarm, it is because Adtalem was not named DeVry Education Group until a year ago.
After DeVry agreed to pay $100 million to resolve the FTC lawsuit, the company changed its name, accusing DeVry of misleading thousands of students
Prospects for graduation work and income.
DeVry denies the charges.
The company said the settlement was not the reason why they changed their name from DeVry to Adtalem, which Harvard Latin professor said actually does not mean authorization.
It's actually just gibberish, like a complete-up word.
But DeVry has other issues besides naming and the Federal Trade Commission's huge litigation.
At the end of 2016, a special police team from the Ministry of Education was deployed to investigate the widespread abuse of for-profit universities such as DeVry.
According to the New York Times, in the last few months of the Obama administration, the team has expanded to include a dozen lawyers and investigators who are investigating advertising, hiring practices, and employment applications from several institutions.
But just as Donald Trump took office, something interesting happened.
Quote: The investigation into DeVry stopped.
Quoting this sentence, members of the special police force are marginalized, reassigned or directed to focus on other matters.
After months of paralysis, the SWAT team has only three employees left and their tasks have been reduced.
In a strange coincidence, the members of that team, now the weak SWAT team, got a new boss, a former dean of DeVry,
The profit institute under investigation.
See henhowls, Fox.
The new boss was installed by the Minister of Education, Betsy DeVos.
This strategy of putting civil servants like the SWAT team on the ice is not unique to Betsy DeVos or the Ministry of Education.
A new report tonight from the blockbuster shows that this is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, and the Trump administration may take a page from a secret Nixon --era playbook.
This is next. (
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Reid: on January 29, the blockbuster was published in The New Yorker.
The title is like a thunder.
"Jared Kushner is the trump card for China: the son of the president --in-
Despite his lack of experience in diplomacy, the law has become a major focus in Beijing.
It reads like a spy thriller and opens a brand new rabbit hole about Jared Kushner.
This is the work of Adam Entous, the heavyweight reporter of New Yorker, and Evan Osnos.
Evan Osnos is back tonight. read page-turner.
This time, he took us into the White House drama, quoting a quote below the waterline that the echo of the Watergate incident was invisible under normal circumstances.
During Nixon's reign, the White House aides crafted a secret
How to clear the page manual of the non-performing nursing staff.
It includes a civil service hierarchy that measures the reliability of civil servants.
In other words, their loyalty to Nixon.
Quote: troublesome people are assigned to a new activity that clearly makes sense but is essentially meaningless.
Nixon's secret manual was exposed at the water gate event hearing and later declared illegal, but Osnos reported that the strategy to arrest civil servants in vague tasks still exists today.
It is known as being sent to the "Turkish farm ".
The idea is to encourage those who are not loyal enough to Trump to resign because of boredom or shame.
Osnos reported that in the renaissance of Nixon technology, the Trump administration had commissioned hundreds of people to Turkish farms, citing the expulsion of them to a strange form of purgatory. High-
Obama-class civil servants have been reassigned to heavy work to deal with the requirements of the Freedom of Information Act, which seems to be aimed at fighting morale.
Civil servants who thought they had been abused could appeal, but Osnos found that their complaints actually piled up in a storage room filled with cartons of complaints.
The backlog is 896 and they don't have space anymore.
Now we are joined by Evan Osnos, a New Yorker staff writer. Mr.
Congrats to peace, Osnos.
We thank you for your time tonight.
Thank you for coming.
Evan Osnos, a staff writer for The New Yorker: I'm very happy.
Thank you for inviting me.
Let's go back to Richard Nixon.
I would like to read a little quote from your article.
It is said that Nixon's assistant made an 80.
With regard to the page manual for the cancellation of bad occupations, which provides a system for grading civil servants based on political reliability, from L to O, meaning let's look at this guy, it proposes a new activity technique that creates clearly meaningful, but essentially meaningless activities in which they are transferred.
Is the version of the Trump administration arranged like this or that?
OSNOS: Well, you know, the script should be declared illegal on 1978.
Congress has passed a series of laws aimed at preventing political retaliation against civil servants.
These are, of course, professionals who join the government. they have no party affiliation. they are independent experts.
But when I go out and start talking to people across the government, what we see is that these people work in the 250 agencies that make up the federal workforce, I found people describing very similar strategies.
As you mentioned, one of the things that is happening at the State Department is that hundreds of diplomats have been assigned to perform their duties under the Freedom of Information Act.
As one of them said, this is something smart interns can do.
This is paperwork.
It is data entry in some cases.
They were assigned the task and they soon found out that some of them had been working hard
Personal data tasks under the Obama administration, such as the Iran agreement, immigration issues, environmental issues, refugee issues, all of a sudden, they found themselves really a little on the shelf, or be sent to the classic Washington terminology of the Turkish farm.
Yes, one of Reid's other fascinating messages about the way the Trump administration clearly decides whether you're going to a Turkish farm or finding a meaningful job is clearly based on loyalty, we know Trump values loyalty but you write that Trump has increased his loyalty to the top priority.
Since he does not have a fixed ideology and the White House cannot block ideas, it seeks a more personal form of dedication.
Kellyanne Conway is one of his most dedicated assistants, and he mentioned the league in October 8 religiously. While the whole world is listening to his recordings of bragging about grabbing women with his genitals, he is still standing next to Trump.
In fact, Donald Trump decided whether or not you stayed with him after the "into Hollywood" tape and you were in it.
Is this not just a matter of the White House, but of civil servants?
This is an interesting thing.
I think you hit your head.
We have now arrived at a time when many of the president's allies and loyalists say he is now liberated because of the people who hold senior positions in the White House, people like H. R.
McMaster, who is willing to speak out and spark debate and is willing to try to introduce alternative ideas into policy --
They are really designed to make structures.
What you are seeing now is some of this culture, a culture of loyalty and obedience that has gradually penetrated into the civil service in this 2-year-old workforce.
8 million civilian employees.
I have heard this sentence in one agency after another, and it is expected that if you are not considered to be loyal to the flag as the interior minister Ryan Zinck has said, he's talking about himself and the president, so you're a suspect.
How did James Mattis escape?
James Mattis is an exception to the rule.
As I described in the article, members of Congress who closely followed the power and independence of the Ministry of Defense said he was able to do that because he was at a certain distance from the president.
As we know, the president respects Matisse as a military hero, a man worthy of his respect, but it is a fragile position.
As we know, in the last 15 or 16 months, if one day you can approach the president, you can also go back to the wrong place on another day.
Yes, Steve Bannon once referred to the administrative state as deconstruction.
Very interesting. A great piece.
Evan Osnos, a staff writer for The New Yorker.
I recommend you to have a look.
Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate it.
Thank you. I'm very happy. Rhett: Thank you.
The grassroots movement half a century ago began again today.
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Mark of Mississippi is a small town on the north end of the Mississippi Delta.
In 1968, Mississippi was the poorest town in the poorest counties of the poorest states in the United States.
In the five months of that year, about 100 people packed up and left Mark in Mississippi.
On 1968, they left in about 15 Covered vans pulled by mules for Atlanta.
Once they have succeeded, they put everything, people, carriages, mules, everything on the train, and the train took them to Washington, D. C. C.
They marched on the streets of the capital until the National square.
They want justice for the poor, they want economic reform.
They want people living in poverty in the United States and people in the small town of Mississippi to change.
At the beginning of the demonstration, hundreds of people, a few mules snowballed to a week later,
Long occupation of Washington
In the summer of 68, 3,000 people from all over the country set up a six-week camp in the shopping center, demanding economic justice.
This sport is the doctor's idea.
Martin Luther King
Planning the protest, a convoy from Mark, Mississippi, was one of the last things he did before he was assassinated.
He called it the campaign for the poor, which they launched a month after his death in 1968.
Now, 50 years later, the movement of the poor is back.
Today, thousands of low-income workers and civil rights leaders re-launched the campaign for the poor, marching to the capital of Providence, Rhode Island and Kansas City, Missouri, in Little Rock, Arkansas.
In Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, they sang on the steps outside the state Capitol building and sat down in the middle of the road outside the building.
They blocked traffic in Boston, Massachusetts and Columbia, South Carolina.
When the police came to arrest them, they lined up to shout "who is the street, our street ".
Protesters across the country appeared today in more than 30 different state capitol buildings, starting work 50 years ago. Higher wages and better living conditions are required for Americans living below the poverty line.
The new campaign for the poor is planning 40 days of action, and today is just the first day.
Now we are joined by Pastor William Barber. He`s a co-
The president of the new, pro-poor movement, who was arrested earlier today in Washington, D. C. C.
Because we have seen a non-violent protest led across the country.
Pastor Barber, it's always nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you here tonight. REV.
William Barber, joint organization of the Movement for the poor
Chair: Good evening.
Good evening, Joey.
Good evening, and all your listeners.
Reid: of course.
Pastor Barber, tell us, what is your motivation to restart the campaign?
Apparently, 50 years after Marianne Wright Edelman raised the idea to become a doctor, the issue of poverty still stands out
The idea of a King backed by Bobby Kennedy.
Why now, what is the goal?
Mother Edelman is really a powerful force and gives us advice.
Today, our focus is on poor women, poor children and poor people with disabilities, and we are focusing on violence and policy violence against these communities where we are not even talking about the poor, not to mention the policy of really solving the problem of the poor.
In some ways, our democracy is going backwards.
Today, a woman spoke that her daughter died on her arm because the state and legislature of Alabama refused to expand Medicaid.
The son of another woman died because she didn't have a living wage at work and couldn't help but ask for a car, and finally he was killed for work.
Another woman from the Apache country spoke because now, in their booking, the ongoing drilling is polluting the aquifer, and the dust generated by the drilling and the residue generated by the drilling are polluting the air.
Another woman with disabilities talked about disability.
Phobias, and what is happening in the disabled community, and how the current tax bill threatens programs that help the disabled.
All these people understand that those who deny health care and those who deny the right of the Apache people to be protected.
I heard a Muslim woman named Linda standing with a women's sect leader named Terry and a female rabbi named Sharon, who had three women of different faiths, it is time for us to adopt a policy of violence.
We are talking about 0. 14 billion poor and low-wealth people in this country, 73 million are women and children, 37 million have no health care, and 64 million work without a living wage every day, 13 million of families can't even afford water.
In this country, more than a quarter of people die from poverty and low wealth each year.
That's why the campaign announced that we can no longer be silent.
We must change the way this country says.
You cannot change the narrative without changing the narrator.
We have to challenge systemic racism, systemic poverty, ecological destruction, war economy, militarism, and all you have to do is fight the false narrative of homosexuality and abortion, praying for national rights and gun rights in school, somehow you did the right moral act, which is wrong.
We have to challenge it, this is what people are doing, we will challenge it at 2: 00 every Monday, the rally is 3: 00, not
In capital cities across the country, violent, moral, and direct civil disobedience.
Pastor Jackson William Barber, I hope we have more time
Chairman of the new Renaissance, the Movement for the poor.
I'm glad you brought us this information tonight.
Pay attention to safety and we will keep an eye on what you are doing.
Thank you very much.
Hairdresser: Thank you very much. God bless. Rhett: Thank you. You too.
Okay, there's a lot more to do tonight at MSNBC.
In a few minutes, lawyer Michael Avenatti will be a live guest at Lawrence's "Last Word.
Now that we 've covered the campaign for the poor, we're going to see what the campaign against the poor looks like in Congress. That`s next. Stay with us. (
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Reid: when it comes to the legislative victory of the Trump era, there are few Republican achievements.
If that's right, the only big win today is $1.
In December, Republicans signed 5 trillion tax bills that brought huge benefits to businesses and the super-rich.
This week, Congress is preparing for the next big policy fight, the only major legislation that is expected to be submitted before the November midterm elections.
This week, the agriculture bill was passed in the house, along with the role of the federal government in the fate of millions of Americans.
This is due to the fact that about 80% of agricultural bills are used for supplementary nutrition assistance programs or SNAP, which were once called food stamps.
Republicans have attacked the food voucher program every five years.
In the final round of negotiations in 2014, they managed to get Democrats to sign an agreement to cut about $0. 8 billion a year.
This time, instead of seeking funding cuts, Republicans are hoping to narrow the role of 43 million low-income Americans by implementing stricter job requirements.
If a family has a shortage within a month, even if they just have problems with paperwork, or if their hours of work are shortened, or they need to take care of sick children, the family will lose a year of benefits.
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says the demands will be successful.
Over the next decade, 2 million people withdrew from the project.
At least for now, plans to allow states to implement drug tests on recipients are not in the bill.
So, that's it.
But it may come back.
Republicans debated and proposed amendments this week.
So, the fair warning: when manufacturers enjoy their sweet April tax cut, there is expected to be a lot of talk about the need for recipients to work harder.
So that's it tonight.
Rachel will be back tomorrow.
Now, it's time to "last word" with the great Lawrence O'Donnell.
Good evening, Lawrence.
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