the original riot grrrl on katy perry, '90s revival - slide projector

New York (CNN)--
Catherine Hanna is the poster grrrl for feminist punk music.
From seminal riot grrrl band Bikini killer in her 90 s to her Electronics
The punk band Le Tigre and her new album with the band Julie Ruin, which will be released in January, inspire countless women to fight for gender equality.
CNN recently talked to Hannah about her new documentary, who took the bomb?
Tour "(
DVD released on June 7)
Why can't she ever hear "smells like a teen spirit" without crying, which current music is "the worst thing ever on Earth ".
"CNN: You 've talked about your fear of the post-90 s feminist movement.
That's why you asked "who took Bomp?
Catherine Hanna: Yes.
I took part in a band called Bikini Killer in my 90 s when we were so obsessed with the documents and the whole thing was not just about the male gaze, but people would misrepresent you. . .
This is a fear many of us have of the mainstream.
I think it's really, really important, not just for feminist reasons, but for being an artist, I feel honored with my work.
Three of us (in Le Tigre)
Already from the use of broken samples and s----
Y slide projector with Monitor, lighting, clothing, dance and video for each song.
We really improved our performance in music and it would be very sad if we said "we don't play anymore", that's it.
I want to say to myself like everyone else that we have created art.
We are making good artwork and I hope others will see it in addition to the children who are able to come to our show.
I feel like killing people in bikini and we don't really respect what we do.
We're just living in the moment, but we're too busy to make a record, and now there's only a bunch of crappy videos on YouTube.
CNN: YouTube didn't exist in its 90 s, so there was more grass
Root document.
Hannah: my friends and I are always talking in the post-90 s revival, is riot going to happen in the current Internet environment?
I don't think so.
I think we all communicate through letters and we don't have a cell phone which makes it very special.
It didn't seem hard at the time, but in retrospect it wasn't easy to communicate and I think it made it more special.
It's like you go to a thrift store and you'll find out-a-
This is a good thing, which means it's more important than going to mark Jacobs to buy this $500 dress that anyone with money can buy.
CNN: Who took the bomb?
"You say you want to be the one you want to have.
Once it exists, it's an interesting process to see something that looks very obvious, but to notice the hole and then create the art to fill it.
What is an example of a song you wrote because it doesn't exist yet?
Hannah: "Stay alive.
"What I originally wrote was about coming out as a survivor of sexual abuse, but it could really be about any kind of emotional trauma that you would love," I'm totally over ", then you will be re-activated.
"My God, I work too hard.
How did I get back to the same place?
"But it will be a little better every time you revisit it.
So many women have experienced terrible forms of male violence throughout their lives, why not have a song about how you are frustrated with it?
You don't know what to do and how to talk to your friends, how strange it is to be a feminist in this situation, where you will have a super expectation
But you just, like, avoid talking about pizza in your house.
I started to write it and (
Band member JD Samson)
Like, "I saw the real connection between the feelings I felt when I was trying to be lesbian when I was a child.
"When we wrote this song, we thought, how did this song not exist yet?
It sounds specific, but if you think about how many people a song like this would cover. . .
CNN: The most striking thing about Le Tigre is that you are covering these serious or heavy themes, but the music is very happy.
Hannah: We really matured as a band in the terrible Bush era.
We started with Woodstock 99, rape and other things.
A positive attitude is really radical for us.
We are like, we can write these angry things, we are completely angry, f---men, f---rapists.
But we thought, do you know what we need to do is not just talk directly to clueless white people?
We need to talk to people in our actual community, hang out with them, get closer to them and write our songs to them.
CNN: Speaking of Woodstock 99, I remember seeing the Beast Boy accept the MTV award, and your husband Adam Horowitz interrupted the group's own speech, there was public opposition to violence against women there.
I will never forget that.
What were you thinking?
Hannah: I posted this on my blog a while ago.
I was there when it happened.
In addition to the Kanye West "Bush hates black" thing, I have never seen such a thing on TV.
I am a child in my 70 s so I remember the strange things that happened on TV and it was very exciting and that moment, in the actual room I felt (Horovitz)
I'm going to be killed.
As soon as he did, we thought, we had to get f---out of here.
Like, you shouldn't.
You shouldn't break the fourth wall.
I'm proud of him.
I remember when we went out, we tried to act perfectly, but as soon as we knocked on the door, we started running.
It feels like people are hitting us.
It feels horrible.
Like Andy Kaufman's performing arts.
It's late, in my 90 s.
CNN: Is the post-90 s music and political spirit alive for women today?
Hannah: I don't think it's so public politically.
Whether it's bikini killing or Le Tigre, we're all very radical, obvious, and preaching.
Many actresses, in terms of their political style, do wear these influences on their sleeves, and the other influences are other female artists.
It doesn't sound so radical, but when I'm doing music, you don't even want to say the name of another woman because you don't want to compare with them.
Women don't want to be on stage with other women because they don't want their bodies to be compared.
Because of this strange competition and symbolic attitude, they don't want another woman to start for them.
So seeing these bands that are obviously influenced by raincoats and Bratmobile, like "I like it", don't hide it, it's a cool political statement for me.
Maybe I'm too optimistic.
CNN: Who took the bomb?
"Do you have any surprise about yourself?
Hannah: I always hide in front of the camera and don't want to be filmed, but the best thing we get is when I don't want to be filmed.
I hope to have more controversial moments in the Le Tigre movie because the truth is that we have a lot of f---ed-up s---
It happened to us, but the camera never rolled.
For example, go to a small town and have promoters yell at us or not give us money.
But one thing I like about this movie is that we're just another band.
To be a movie, it doesn't have to be that someone falls off the top of the roller coaster, and like everyone else, it's satisfying to show that feminists are just touring.
We are only part of the music landscape.
We always try to be abnormal, but are asked questions about our guitar or how we program our beats because everyone wants to focus on our gender.
It's great in a way because it gives us a soap box to talk about things that are important to us, but we are always looking for friendship.
We also want to be an American band.
CNN: singers like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry and Ke $ ha seem to touch the subject of gay empowerment in their music, what do you think of them, but for some reason, does it not resonate?
Hannah: I mean, is there really such a big difference when a thin white woman in a swimsuit sings these things?
First of all, these women don't wear pants.
Second, you can't make it a performing art just because you're wearing a stupid hat.
I mean, it's just how I feel.
While the first Ke $ ha song "TiK ToK" was nice, a lot of the music sounded like a bad European disco. But (Katy Perry's)
"I Kissed a Girl" is straightup offensive.
The whole thing was like, I kissed a girl so my boyfriend could masturbate for it later.
Disgusting.
This is exactly every male fantasy of fake lesbian porn. It's pathetic.
She's not a good singer either.
I don't want to throw all the other women away.
I mean, I think Jason Mraz is terrible.
I don't just hate other actresses.
Jason Mraz and the new James Blunt song are the worst ever on Earth.
CNN: There are a lot of bad actors, men and women, but the narrative of women is different, you see them perform, and then you see them in swimsuits in magazines, people see them there too.
Hannah: people always have these strange things about how you want to be a singer.
I mean, Steve Nick and Linda lonstadt are not dogs.
This is nothing new.
But there are more changes at a certain point, but now the buzzword is "the whole package", the reality of "American Idol", you are the model first, followed by the singer. The Go-
Go's one of the biggestGirl band. What other all-
Is the girl band really famous?
No woman ever plays musical instruments.
May Grace Potter play the guitar?
Kelis had a meal.
The girl band on the tour, Beyonce also took part.
But not like those bands started in the garage.
CNN: Why?
Why is it so difficult for women to play musical instruments?
Hannah: I'm often asked this question. one of the answers is gender discrimination. That's it.
That's the answer.
But I don't know what else is more important than that.
CNN: In Bikini Killer and Le Tigre, we 've all seen you actually learn your craft, which is so unusual.
Hannah: I was lucky I learned punk music when I was 19 because my band mate Toby well told me I was like, oh, wow you don't have to have talent, you can stand up and do something and see where it will take you.
I always tell girls who say they want to form a band but don't have any talent, well, I don't.
I mean, I can memorize a tune, but anyone who picks up the bass can figure it out.
You don't have to have the power of a magical unicorn.
You will get better when you are working.
Just like anything: you sit there and do it every day, and you'll do a good job in the end.
CNN: Yes, but your music got me and many other girls to finally pick up the instrument and start the band.
This is a revelation.
I grew up listening to music and loved music and knew what I wanted to do with it or around it, but more like, that guy was sexy; I love music.
I never thought, Oh, I can really be that person. Hanna: Me, too.
I'm making stickers for boys.
I shoot the band in the front row, book the band, do all the backstage stuff, I didn't even think I could do it, then I saw the baby in Toyland and everything changed.
CNN: Let's talk about the new documentary you're shooting.
Hannah: This song is called The Punk Singer. it's a song from Julie.
That's my personal record in 1998.
A year after my life
It's four different seasons.
It was an interview with me and others, and we shot a tribute show.
I stopped the music show for five years, made the Le Tigre movie, and made this riot grrrl file in New York University and bikini killing files, as well as other projects, but I have left the public eye.
So it answered the question of where I went!
What I have been doing
The secret robot I 've been working on.
Everything will be exposed in this movie.
In fact, there are countless reasons, especially one that I have never discussed before.
I was able to do the process openly and honestly because I was always very private.
It's not like people follow me on the street like "Catherine, where have you been ? "?
"But I did disappear for five years and now I'm back in a new band and back in this one.
CNN: What kind of songs are you creating, or are you exploring the theme of the new album? Hanna: Anger.
A lot of anger about things I can't express, and anger is usually just hiding sadness, so after I write an angry song, I usually write a very sad song.
Family, personal things, fragile things, friendship between me and other women, I believe Adam will have a love song (Horovitz).
CNN: For punk singer, you recently told Kurt Cobain in his 90 s a story titled "smells like teenage spirit.
What is this feeling?
Hannah: It's really a catharsis for me.
I walked off the stage like, well, it was like 20 years of treatment.
It's really great because it's one of the things I 've been avoiding for a long time.
Or I tell it in one way and it's really nice to be able to tell the story in the way I want.
I hate that things are too historical.
It's just a story, the way anyone tells anything.
What's really strange to me is that everyone has their own story about how the song interacts with their lives, and for me, I get scared every time I hear the song.
It's not because the song is not good. I just remember that I was drunk and acting like an idiot.
CNN: Are you happy to see which part of the post-90 s revival is back?
Hannah: Young girls join feminism.
CNN: What part do you hope will never come back?
Stretch trousers. And rap-rock.